Spikes if you will. Note: Since Android devices vary widely, compatibility cannot be assured for all devices. Back on the venge all ok again. I’m confused, Garmin says this link to evanscycles.com is not compatible with my Forerunner 305, Evans say it is Wiggle says it isn’t YOU say it is, can anybody clarify if i purchase this will it work. Thanks DC! ANT+ Cadence-only: The new magnet-less cadence sensor It’s very clean looking. It appears to be over-reporting on a very rooty and rocky mountain bike trail. After all, if your Elevation Gain changes, so will your overall distance (and dramatically more on long rides). Why? Might the old style magnet based Garmin cadence/speed sensors be best with dynamo hubs? I was able to get it on the crank with the biggest strap. 1st i installed my magnet- less speed sensor on the back wheel’s hub, friends told me should install on the front wheel’s hub, so i then installed it on the front hub, still the same happening to my edge 1000 reading, speed keep on drop, remain, drop, remain…… headache. I decided to just use the ERTO conversion site provided above (by you I think) and manually set it for today. The key differentiators are: Jiri – Czech Republic. One thing to keep in mind is that for the most part all sensors are made by a single OEM in Asia, and then just rebranded. I ride only mountain bikes for Xterra class triathlons. There is no way to change this order on any devices on the market I’m aware of, except a few apps such as the Wahoo Fitness app. Speed sensor readings all over the place. Hi Charles, unfortunately, the wireless protocols used by both devices are not compatible and what you’re trying to do will not work. Coincidentally I connected a Garmin chest strap and a Bontrager cadence sensor, both ANT+. I recently pursued the forerunner 920xt and would like to pair it with cadence sensor. 🙁, Looking at the name this guy (who knows girl?) Is this a known issue or a duff sensor. I went ahead and installed a Wahoo Blue magnet-based speed & cadence sensor (BT & ANT+), and it works great with my Edge 810 without suffering interference from my SP dynamo hub. Go into Sensor Details Both are priced about the same and work fine. power meter testing).  They suggested instead putting it on another wheel. Moving the sensor to the rear wheel doesn’t help. Thanks in advance. Ok so I finally got it out for a ride. will be turning off Bluetooth, GLONASS for sure, likely ‘smart recording’ on also… :-/. In the UK/EU/Australia/New Zealand? Got it. is the Garmin speed and cadence sensor compatible with Scott 720 mountain bike wheels. The easy-to-use sensor installs in seconds and fits directly into the chainstay of select Trek bicycles for a clean look and preserved aerodynamics. I am thinking about get a new bike and want to replace the old setup. Not sure if … But there are some use cases where I wouldn’t recommend it.  For example, if doing aero testing (such as with Alphamantis), this speed sensor would be a nightmare and skew the data too much.  Same goes for any other scenario that relies on incredibly clean and high fidelity speed sensor data.  If you’ve never put those words together in the same sentence before, then you likely don’t fall into that camp.  Also of note is that I haven’t done any mountain biking.  While the cobbles I do have can throw a wrench in things, so can rocks and stumps.  So just keep that in mind if you’re looking to go on trails instead. Will the Edge 810 work with my existing speed and cadence sensors that came with my Edge 705? The Wahoo BlueSC isn’t working at all for me–doesn’t pick up speed in the normal or alternate positions, there isn’t enough clearance between the spokes and chainstay for the magnet in normal position. I don't know what budget you are talking but if the others are just 'a bit cheaper' I'd say just go Garmin. If I travel, I’ll bring the watch with me and the ability to put the cadence sensor on another bike appeals to me. (that one actually didn’t contain any, which is better) 1 garmin charge hr within a more than six orders are areas or heart rate was. Or do I have to log the workout for me to later see my cadence and speed. I lost appr. The cadence id is 5 digits but the speed id is 6 digits. Wahoo support kindly offered to replace my Cadence RPM unit, but managed my expectations by predicting that my experience would likely be the same. Dave. does it improve the accuracy ? You can get an adapter, but they are for the older connectors (30-pin), versus the new Lightning ones, so it’s a bit messier (since you have to get another adapter). Set Speed/Cadence Sensors to On And will make you a spinning god that renders the need for a sensor moot. I was in a lot in Grossglockner area last week! I shall feed back mid to end of next week. It took under 30 seconds. One sensor for speed, and one sensor for cadence. Thanks for reading! Speed sensor is unaffected by the issue. I am having trouble pairing the device with my garmin edge 810. The accelerometer is thrown off by cobblestone (or even less violently bumpy) road surfaces. Outdoors most head units will self calibrate using GPS. It’s a nice break from the day to day sports-tech talk, and I hope you get something out of it! So I removed them off the Fenix 3 and now it won’t find sensors to re add them. I bought the garmin heart rate plus cadence and speed sensor. If I were in your situation I’d calibrate all of the various combinations ahead of time and then input the proper number manually before using the specific wheel/tire combination. My Edge 500 and now 520 will auto pause, then start, again and again. Any other suggestions? Youre saying the gym bike is closer to 130-140. I've found the powertap sensor to be very inaccurate in some edge cases. I am on my third speed sensor. Yes, there will be GPS data in the FIT file even when the sensor is connected. Giles, did you have success getting in touch with Garmin to replace your sensors? Hi. We shall see….. thanks again. Would the cadence sensor work if attached to an ankle or shoe? Am I missing something or is it broken. why would I use the speed sensor with my edge 1000 and not just rely on the units gps or recording speed. Looks like I might need to buy a new one…. Uhm, why wouldn´t it? But thanks for your time answering my questions @Roberto ! Is there any news on that? thx for help in advance. Set your wheel size (Wheel Size and Circumference). Power meter sending power values and cadence (e.g. I have the new combo on my bike and connected to my fenix2 however I’m only getting the cadence reading on the watch..no speed..changed battery,,flashing green,,still not working..what do you think could be the issue? But even that would involve time….. (our eternal enemy) Or move to a forum format?  Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! I’d really like to try a magnetless sensor again but once bitten twice shy. My cadence sensor is maybe six months old and starting doing this too. I can be slowly pesky and it’s reading. I have been trying to find the one you used on your Timex Review but seem to come up empty handed looking for it. I just bought one and measured my tire by chalking it and measuring meticulously at exactly 91 inches or 2311mm. If you’ve tried swapping the two batteries (just in case, since every once in a while a dud battery goes out), then it sounds like it’s broke. Nopez, didn’t even think about that since it’s brand new. However I have a pioneer powermeter, and it won’t register any speed with either device riding indoors. Wahoo RPM & the Garmin cadence – yes. * to avoid comp to pause when GPS is bad (when using autopause). – 700×28: 2136 mm. I am reading that apps like Zwift can work off cadence and speed only and translate that into power.. With apps like Zwift, they use a known trainer table to lookup resistance curves (works on many, but not all trainers). I usually keep all my stuff organized in boxes but apparently I misplaced the other rubber straps to the cadence sensor. … I’ve tried pairing with my Forerunner 910XT and have failed miserably. This tiny little sensor speedo by Magene looks a bit…  Thus, that’s a difference of 0.4% in and themselves. What is the minimum and maximum cadence range for this? Only calibrate once? Then, I come here and write about my adventures. IMHO, the latest version of the Garmin cadence sensor is worth every penny - works very well and is very discrete. No, BT sensors won’t connect to an Edge unfortunately. Also the front hub diameter is much smaller, so the sensor does not attach very tightly to it. I have tried all of most of the trouble shooting from Garmin page. I have to keep the Bluetooth on the whole ride or only pairing them once is enough? If the sensor is stuck on and comes loose when at full speed it will probably shoot the cat! And, I have no issues with the speed sensor and my PC8.  So the actual difference could be: Again, like I noted above – I’ll be getting more examples as part of my Edge 1000 review – including seeing what happens if I override the automatic configurations on both and set to the same values. Thanks for the response, though not what I’d hoped for 🙂, You said the order of precedence of cadence data in Garmin devices are, Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? http://velocomputer.com/views/products-sensor5. Does anyone have better experience with the Garmin on a Wahoo device? Vivoactive can work with external sensors? Ok, very impressive thinking Paul! If so – you’d be covered by the 2-year EU warranty policy. None unfortunately. Have used a couple from CatEye which failed within weeks. That was bad luck for me because they were nice speed and cadence monitors I would love to have been able to use on my alternate bikes. To me, the logical way of doing it would be for it to check the calibration as a background task on the first kilometre of each ride. Additionally, you can also use Amazon to purchase the units or other accessories (though, no discount). After my first ride i noticed that the battery drain is much much higher. This is what I had to do: Move cadence sensor well away from bike and speed sensor. – 700×25: 2105 mm No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! For what Its worth I bought the Garmin over the Wahoo. As a practical matter, unless you’re riding mountain bikes in dense forests on twisty trails or road bikes in cities, where GPS error can get much worse because of sky blockage/reflections, you’re not likely to notice the difference. Turn it back on Got to the settings and tell it you do not have any sensors Then tell it you do have a cadence sensor and search Repeat for speed sensor or dont … I have the Wahoo bluetooth and ANT+ cadence sensor on one bike which works a treat, the BlueSCv2 looks (comparitive to this Garmin and the Wahoo magnetless cadence sensor) pretty ugly on the bike…. Either way, the stakes are small. Preferably I’d use 1 speed sensor on several bikes, where do I set the wheel circumference for this sensor; is it connected to the sport mode, bike type or connected to the senor? Has anyone had issues with battery life? It took under 30 seconds. I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). I’ve never heard of ANT+ interference before to be honest (from either anyone at ANT+ or any consumers). I noticed that the led on the sensor came on the other day when I was waiting for my edge to connect to it. Many readers stumble into my website in search of information on the latest and greatest sports tech products. There’s no magic; the head unit determines speed and distance from the number of rotations and the wheel circumference. What about Forerunner 410? Or any salvage help on Timex with Wahoo sensor? Where? I was wondering if anyone has tested these for accuracy? I cannot make any sense of it, but all three of our sensors were fluctuating the most while we were riding near a large body of water. It’s totally free and an awesome application. Loving it, its really nice with the shoe mount. Garmin Cadence/Speed Sensor Bundle (EU/UK/AU/NZ – Wiggle). It takes less than 30 seconds. Is there any trick to pair this devices with my Fenix? 10 to 16 feet) of you (or even as much as 10 meters or approx. In accordance with our ingegrated design philosophy, Garmin utilizes all-in-one electronic sensors which consume less space and energy. Would really like to have those features working when I do spin workouts at the house. The fact that I’ll place Garmin’s new speed sensor on the front hub, and that it is fixed “fare away” from my stages sensor, can Garmin’s new sensor solve my interference issue? That also means I have to move the speed sensor and make do with the intermittent connection when I ride on the trainer, sinch the front wheel doesn’t spin. Of course, running speeds are lower than cycling speeds, so it may still work. I had them on there but took off to change batteries because one of them was acting up. Does the Edge 1000 have the capability of pairing with more one speed sensor and one cadence sensor? What you see is that while there is a tiny bit of noise (just like indoors) – overall it still tracks fairly well, especially the accelerations.  And while it appears there might be a 1-second delay on some of the quicker accelerations from zero, that’s hard to quantify due to a lot of factors involved in the transmission and capture process – even with everything in sync. can fenix 5 read and display both of these sensors simultaneously? The sensors are more accurate once the wheel size is calibrated, primarily because the error in consumer GPS is about 3 meters at best, while a typical wheel circumference is about 2 meters. Monitor your speed and pedaling cadence with the Garmin Bike Speed 2 and Cadence 2 Sensor. i noticed that fenix 3 cannot. Get to use to having auto correction switched on 🙂. Using only GPS for speed is about 9% per hour, with GSC-10 maybe 1% more, also for rides in the forest. I’m headed to Washington DC – what do you recommend for training? The cadence sensor seems to work fine. Below are the most popular. ? Suunto Bluetooth HR Sensor works for OS X only. Bontrager DuoTrap is the integrated sensor that wirelessly transmits ANT+ and Bluetooth® Smart signals to your computer or phone. RubiTrack 4, which is now pretty pricey, also allows you to select whether you use device or GPS data, but the selection is a little more buried in the UI. So I don’t need speed, but I’m not sure if the newer non-magnet cadence sensors are as accurate as the GSC10 speed/cadence sensor for RPMs. Wow I didnt even see that one! Ahh, re-reading the article now, I realise I’d misread. I went for a ride today and again my Garmin Explore was not reporting cadence, yesterday it was. I ride a bike. I did only two checks/trials but it seems to be working. Front wheel or back? I don’t remember seeing that before. Should I just buy cadence sensor for both occasions or do I need to buy both the speed sensor and cadence sensor for trainer and road purposes? But, does that really mean anything?  Meaning – does that funkiness matter at the end of the day?  Well, let’s start with two graphs.  First up is from the Edge 1000 showing the speed data being fed to it from the new Garmin speed sensor.  As you can see, it’s smoothed a little bit.  That’s partly because Garmin Connect does some smoothing, and partly because the data capture rate is lower (only once per second) – which naturally cleans things up. The issue: on my Cervelo P5 XS frame size, there is not enough clearance to place it on the inside as directed. My brothers 830 with GPS reports 7.5 miles. Have you tried swapping the battery out? Do you know if I can follow my speed and cadence real time (in a stationary bike) on the app or on the vivofit screen? Just wondered if you had any ideas? Do I need a cadence AND speed sensor for my bicycle since my watch already tells me speed VIA GPS? Any suggestions? What does ‘mixed’ mean on the chart? Thanks for your reply. I can’t get my Edge 500 to detect the sensors no matter what I do. You have far more important things to do, esp. I rode my bike with a separate Garmin cadence sensor and the problem of extremely high max cadence numbers continued. The installation was a breeze, it works, there are no magnets, stickers or zip ties, it wasn’t expensive. The … I plan to buy Garmin Edge 520 for outdoor and some indoor trainning info. The 705 requires a combo cadence/speed sensor. 3. Carpe diem! I no the GSC10 is definitely compatible but sadly its discontinued. I take things to a whole new level of interactive depth! I would like to take my 520 from the bike into the class without having to pair to anything else or assemble the cadence sensor do the stationary bike every time. The initial battery lasted roughly a year, but two batteries have lasted a matter of rides in comparison. I ride with my Vivoactive, which has GPS and I’m wondering if this speed sensor would be more accurate than the GPS. and it appears that battery life might be an issue….thinking I could probably leave my cadence and maybe speed “off” during the trip…. You’re going to have to tell it how much distance corresponds to each turn of the drum, and the easiest way to find that out is simply to measure how far the belt has moved after one rotation. So when you switch wheels, you should manually change the calibration. You can’t use separate speed and cadence-only sensors. Just sounds like a dead battery. When I did the sensor detection it didn’t show one for speed only cadence. Hello! And guess what, I still get them appearing such as a cadence reading of 207 when I know my max is around 150. 10 mph on a bicycle is around 2 revolutions per second of a bicycle wheel, or 16 of your cylinder, so the sensor might still be able to count that fast. It will show the little speedometer on the watch, but no speed detected, and when checking pairing under sensors it cannot find speed sensor. Number is very jumpy, bandwidth being 10, 15 or even more. Any ideas? I don’t remember if I did the “search for sensor” thing via the CP7 or if I punched in the ANT ID number. Secondly, I will also lose my cadence reading that the foot pod would give me but this is not an issue for me. Are there GPS data available as well inside the FIT file? The names are different but both recognise subscribe status – presumably due to same email address. or am I missing something and need to calibrate it? Looking at my recent Wahoo ANT+ ID’s, all were above 5 digits, except for the KICKR’s. It’s 4, 5 or 6 digit. Might a bluetooth speed sensor on the rear wheel be able to connect to my Garmin Edge 810 and avoid the problems generated by the magnets on my dynamo? Looking at laternatives the Rox 11 seems to tick a lot of boxes. I have easily attached it to the front roller of the treadmill by the side of the belt – it rotates freely with no hindrance from anything. Quick update: I gave the speed sensor a thirty minute break and it now flashes the green LED when I spin the wheel. It is one of the best …  I aim to leave no stone unturned. Is it still around? I am curious if you or anyone knows if the speed sensor can register a wheel rotation with hard bumps from roots or rocks. As the compatibility table in this article above says, no, it won’t. I do not intend to use smartphone (Wahoo app) mounted on handlebar as I go trails. Ride fixed on the road and your speedo serves the same purpose (cadence = 5 x speed for 42:16). 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